Video showing Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland admitting she squandered $5 billion on illegally overthrowing a perfectly functional government in Ukraine to install the current government that has made Ukraine the poorest country in Europe!
Vince Dhimos answered a leading, biased question on Quora. You can see Glenn Anderson’s answer to his own question at this site:
Why is anti-Ukrainian propaganda of hate so effective in Russia?
Vince Dhimos, Editor-in-Chief at New Silk Strategies (2016-present)
[I have added some details not included in my Quora response]
The asker of this question wrote his own answer based on the Ukrainian site StopFake - Борьба с неправдивой информацией о событиях в Украине. My comments below are based in part on this person’s comments.
A Russian TV channel supposedly spread a rumour that Urkainian veterans of wars are promised land and "2 slaves" on retirement. The channel is linked at the Russian language site Stop Fake (Фейк: Украинским военным обещают «кусочек земли и два раба») but the linked site does not contain the Russian word for slave and in fact does not relate to the topic. It relates to the history of Soviet troops liberating Kiev from the German fascists. Link: 70 лет назад Советские войска освободили Украину от фашистов. Новости. Первый канал. Thus, StopFake does not demonstrate that the Russian channel actually spread this rumour. I read Russian news daily in Russian and also view videos from this channel (the presenter is Vladimir Soloviev) and I have never read in Russian sites or heard on Russian TV anything that could be described as the “hate mongering” mentioned by the asker-answerer Glenn Anderson. [Some of the other respondents agreed with me on this.] In fact, the official Kremlin position is that Ukrainians are “Slavic brothers.” I have never read or heard anything similar in the Ukrainian press, which constantly slurs Russia. For the sake of completeness, let me note that Russian professor and philosopher Aleksander Dugin on one occasion said live on the radio, that the Ukrainian nationalists who shell neighbourhoods in Donbass ought to be killed. Dugin has been falsely identified as a mentor of President Putin – a laughable idea since Putin needs no mentors and in fact mentors others. The two actually never meet or confer. But because of this false association, Dugin’s foolish words about killing Ukrainians were taken as “evidence” that the Russian government advocated killing Ukrainians. I have in fact heard Putin strongly admonishing a guest on one of his public appearances who spoke harshly of Ukrainians, whose government is in fact virulently anti-Russian. Putin reminded him that Ukrainians are “our Slavic brothers.”
StopFake.org swears that said Russian TV channel – one of my favourites, BTW – has made the claim that the Ukrainians are spreading the rumour that Ukrainian vets of wars can get free land and “2 slaves” from the government. BTW, the land part is true. Vets who have seen action can get a tiny parcel from the government. But as I said above, I watch Vladimir Soloviev´s show quite often and I was pretty sure he had never made such an outlandish claim or allowed one of his guests to do so unchallenged.
I did a Russian language search using the search term in Russian for “two slaves and a parcel of land” (Два раба и клаптик земли) and found ONLY references to Ukrainian sites, NONE on Russian sites. (Many Ukrainian sites are written in Russian). This makes it appear as though the fake story may have originated in Ukraine, not Russia. No Russian alive today would believe that Ukrainian soldiers are receiving “2 slaves” as payment for their service and no serious Russian presenter would pass off such a story on his audience.
StopFake - Борьба с неправдивой информацией о событиях в Украине is a Ukrainian site. The Ukrainians have not shown any evidence at their site that the Russian channel ever floated the rumour about Ukrainian soldiers being promised free land and 2 slaves. If the site wants readers to believe there was such a story put out by Russia, they need to provide a link to the actual site containing this report, not just to the main page or another unrelated story.
Another example of “fake news” provided by Glenn Anderson, the person who asked and then answered the question, provides a link to StopFake Berdiansk Police Refuted Information about 22 Women being Raped and Killed, which in turn links to a Russian TV show (Soloviev’s again) that one is led to believe contains the “fake story” of Ukrainian soldiers raping 22 women in Donbass. But if you open the link to Soloviev’s show found in that StopFake feature (Вечер с Владимиром Соловьевым / Телеканал «Россия 1»), you find no hint of this story anywhere on that page. It is hardly credible to claim the Russians said something if you do not provide a link to the actual statement that they supposedly made. All of Soloviev’s shows are archived, so it would have been easy for the accuser to provide a link to the source of the supposedly fake story if the story has actually been broadcast. This pattern is typical of the StopFake - Борьба с неправдивой информацией о событиях в Украине features.
Another story that the Ukrainian site StopFake - Борьба с неправдивой информацией о событиях в Украине claims is fake relates to an interview with a Russian official who claims that an oubtbreak of Zika virus carried by a mosquito at an area about 100 miles from the US microbiological laboratory in Tbilisi, Georgia, may have been part of a plot or experiment by the US Army, which runs this lab. Russian sources have indeed aired this story, but even though StopFake claims this is fake news, they do not in any way show which part is fake, ie, did the Russian official NOT say this? Or was he lying when he said there was a US Army microbiology lab in Tbilisi (this is undisputed)? Or what? And StopFake does not rebut it at all, just relies on the gullible reader to assume it is fake, assuming that the US is a country that would never even think of unleashing bio weapons on Russians. The fact is, there is a US Army-operated microbiological lab, the Lugar lab, in Tbilisi, and there is indeed a controversy swirling about it, as reported here: Lugar Labs Controversy. The story comes NOT from a Russian but from former Minister of State Security of Georgia, Igor Giorgadze, regarding work of the Richard Lugar Public Health Research Centre – run by the US ARMY – and says they identified that "various types of ammunition needed for the provision of chemical and biological weapons are noted in a number of patents.” Well, who would know better than the health minister in charge of overseeing the lab? Admittedly a group of international observers visited the lab and said they saw nothing untoward. Of course, the operators of the lab are not about to trot out damaging evidence during such a sensitive visit, so the testimony of these observers means nothing. Thus StopFake has not stopped a fake, merely claimed it was fake without presenting any proof.
The only thing anyone can say for certain is that no one knows why the US Army needs a microbiological research lab this close to the Russian border. It would be like the Russian Defence Ministry running a microbiology lab in Tjuana. Americans would be justifiably nervous.
The asker-answerer refers to something he calls Russian “hate mongers” but does not show evidence of hate. He does present a list of things the Russians have said about Ukraine but they are true -- though the list is couched in emotional, subjective language not used by the Russians.
The asker-answerer also volunteers “Ukrainian success as a prosperous, pro-European, democratic state is Putin’s greatest fear,...”
Thanks to economic cooperation with Russia, Ukraine was moderately prosperous until the 2014 violent, illegal US-led Maidan coup, which threw the country into turmoil (you can’t deny US involvement when Asst. Secretery of State Nuland admitted the US spent $5 billion on the Maidan coup, here – and at the top of this page – at minute 7:46) [see last heading at bottom of page on why this intervention was illegal under international law]:
Here is what Reuters says about Ukrainian president Poroshenko, who won the presidency in 2014 thanks to US backing:
Trailing in polls, Ukraine's Poroshenko launches bid for second term
“The public has blamed a failure to fight corruption for the continuing fall of living standards in one of Europe’s poorest countries. The average monthly wage is around $380 compared to $450 in the year before Poroshenko took office.”
According to the Kyiv Post (Bne IntelliNews: IMF ranks Ukraine as Europe's poorest country | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice), the IMF lists Ukraine as the poorest country in Europe, and attributes this to corruption, NOT to Russian interference or aggression.
The IMF is not, nor has it been accused of being, an organ of Russian propaganda.
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Here’s why the US intervention in Ukraine in the Maidan coup was illegal:
The events of this week, including the United States immediate recognition of the illegally self-declared Presidency of Juan Guaido, followed by those of Canada, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Costa Rica, the UK and Peru evidence a highly orchestrated international attempt to effect a coup d’etat. The U.S.’s announced refusal to follow President Maduro’s justifiable demand for 72-hour withdrawal of diplomatic personnel is a transparent attempt to provoke a military confrontation. In addition to the U.N. Charter, the International Court of Justice in its 1986 decision condemning U.S. interference in Sandanista-led Nicaragua
[a decision which the U.S. cavalierly refused to accept]has made it crystal clear that:
“[t]he principle of non-intervention involves the right of every sovereign State to conduct its affairs without outside interference; (ICJ Reports 1986, p. 106, para. 202)… “[T]he principle forbids all States or groups of States to intervene directly or indirectly in the internal or external affairs of other States” … “[A] prohibited intervention must accordingly be one bearing on matters in which each State is permitted, by the principle of State sovereignty, to decide freely. One of these is the choice of a political, economic, social and cultural system, and the formulation of foreign policy. Intervention is wrongful when it uses methods of coercion in regard to such choices, which must remain free ones. [ … ] the element of coercion [ ,,, ] defines, and indeed forms the very essence of, prohibited intervention” (para. 205).
In DRC V. Uganda (2005), the Court noted that Nicaragua had “made it clear that the principle of non-intervention prohibits a State “to intervene, directly or indirectly, with or without armed force, in support of the internal opposition within a State” (Emphasis added, ICJ Reports 2005, para. 164).