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WHO HAD THE BEST FOREIGN POLICY? CARTER, CLINTON, OBAMA, TRUMP?

8/19/2019

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Our thanks to RT for the two viideos linked above.

​Vince Dhimos answered another question at Quora. His answer is shown below along with his commentary below the Quora post.


QUESTION: How was former Presidents Obama, Clinton, and Carter foreign policy better than President Trump’s foreign policy?

https://www.quora.com/How-was-former-Presidents-Obama-Clinton-and-Carter-foreign-policy-better-than-President-Trump-s-foreign-policy/answer/Vince-Dhimos
 
Answer: There is no such thing as “good” US foreign policy. Incompetence is a bipartisan feature of US government agencies including both the White House and Congress.
 
Obama, you will recall, declared he was at war with terror. Funny thing about that, because while the man had plenty of A-10 bombers and ordnance at his disposal, when those famous rows of Daesh white Toyota trucks were crossing the desert, in broad daylight mind you, and were intent on entering major population areas where they could take countless hostages and become almost invulnerable, Obama sat on his derriere and watched it all happen. Somehow in his addled brain, “peace” meant never fighting anyone, even if it meant thousands of deaths at the hands of merciless cut throats. After all, he got the Nobel peace prize. He was a genius at being peaceful. The upshot of all this peace stuff was that ISIS dominated major cities like Raqqa and Aleppo, where the US, Syria and Russia had no choice but to bomb and kill just about everybody. Trump made the decision to level the city. You will recall he and his followers blamed everything bad on Obama, but Trump managed to make things even worse. And his genius was superior. Never at a loss for words, he called the battle of Raqqa the “most precise air campaign in history.” His smart bombs killed almost every inhabitant but they died with smiles on their faces because they were blown to bits with smart bombs. So nice of Trump to do that.
 
But I see you mentioned Carter in there. Carter too was known as a man of peace. He did not believe in war, but his main foreign policy hack — er, adviser—Zbigniew Brzezinski, fed Carter this clever idea to send the CIA into Afghanistan and undermine the work of the Soviets there by supporting the Taliban. Now we need to understand something about the Soviets in Afghanistan. They did not go to harm the Afghans. That was the Americans’ specialty. Actually, the Soviets always supported the most rational and civilized governments in the Muslim world, ie, preferentially secular leaders who did not allow Shariah law and the horrors of severing hands and feet or making women subservient to men. They chose governments of the kind ordinary Westerners would approve of. So what did “Christian” Carter of “Christian” America do in Afghanistan? Thanks to his slavish obeisance to Brzezinski, he allowed a new terror group to come to power, the Taliban, whose leader would later come to thank him with the famous 9-11 attack that killed 3000 Americans.
 
Then there was the gifted foreign policy whiz kid Bill Clinton, who as a member of the US establishment, carried the seeds of Russophobia that have led to the new cold war raging today in America, and since Serbia was Eastern Orthodox like Russia, his rage percolated up into a war of hate on Serbia. Clinton decided – based on skimpy evidence – that the Serbs were committing genocide on the Kosovars and quickly, before an investigation could be conducted to see if this accusation was true, sent NATO to bomb Priština, Belgrade, Novi Sad, and other cities in 1998-9, killing mostly Serbian civilians and destroying billions in infrastructure, https://youtu.be/gelCe981y0I. After the war, Carla Del Ponte, the UN prosecutor for the International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, stated that the alleged “genocide” on Kosovars, on which the NATO massacre was based, had not happened. She also found that the Kosovars were harvesting organs from hapless Serbs. Details are in her book The Hunt: Me and the War Criminals (Italian: La caccia: Io e i criminali di guerra) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt:_Me_and_the_War_Criminals. So to sum up, Clinton waged a war to save Muslim terrorists from a Serbian government that had fought terror, and as a result, a criminal government is now in power in Kosovo, which has broken away from Serbia. Thanks to the foreign policy talent of Bill Clinton.
 
Of Trump, I can only say that his salient foreign policy achievement was to stir up hate in America against Shiite Muslims and particularly Iranians, with which it is obvious he wanted to start WW III in order to please Israel and his "Christian" Zionist voters. Second in line is his warmongering against Venezuela, on which he has slapped sanctions that are starving the people of that country. The best thing I can say in this context is that he has so far managed not to start war with either country, almost certainly out of fear that Russia will eventually come to their defence. Other accomplishments include enraging the Muslim world by declaring East Jerusalem (the second most holy city in Islam) and Golan Heights to be Israeli territory even though they are not, and the UN says they are not. He has also encouraged the Israeli government to build illegal settlements on land belonging to Palestinians – a recipe for war in that areas as well. He has done this to please his “Christian” Zionist base and the lobby AIPAC, which wields staggering power over US politics and owns most politicians. I will refrain from writing more about Trump since the reader will have learned amply of his foreign policy expertise from the msm.          
 
END OF QUORA POST
 
NATO massacred an estimated 13,500 people in 1998-99 and destroyed the infrastructure of much of Serbia. The grief over this immense tragedy was felt not only by the Serbs but by their Slavic Orthodox brothers in Russia, many of whom would have rushed to their aid if only they could have. There was a sense of guilt at not being able to help. Russia did not have the wonder weapons it has today, but there can be no doubt that had it had had them, this tragedy would not have happened. The song in the background of the first above-linked video of the tragedy as it happened best expresses this guilt and sadness.
 
As I listened to the song sung in the background of the Yugoslav bombing video I was transfixed by the hauntingly beautiful melody and lyrics, and Googled them. First my semi-literal English translation (no translation can do it justice):
 
Above the evening Danube flashes
The colour white, the colour white, the colour white.
And a melody asks to be remembered
Of years gone by, years gone by, years gone by ...
But vanished like flocks of birds
Are the simple words of our songs.
You go into the fire, Yugoslavia!
Without me! Without me! Without me!
 
Overnight under a leaden hail
For not being by your side
Forgive me, my sister Yugoslavia!
For death in the spring rain
For not being your salvation!
Forgive me, my sister Yugoslavia!
Confused black-eyed girl
You are standing on the other shore.
But get to this shore
I cannot, I cannot, I cannot.
 
Above the evening Danube flashes
The colour white, the colour white, the colour white.
And a melody asks to be remembered
Of years gone by, years gone by, years gone by
Overnight under a leaden hail
Because I'm not by your side
Forgive my sister Yugoslavia!
 
For death in the spring rain
For not being your salvation!
Forgive me, my sister Yugoslavia!
 
Our previous post on NATO: http://www.newsilkstrategies.com/news--analysis/eurexit-from-nato-needed
 
In Russian:
 
Над вечерним Дунаем разносится
Белый цвет, белый цвет, белый цвет.
И на память мелодия просится,
Прошлых лет, прошлых лет, прошлых лет...
Но растаяли птичьими стаями, 
Нашей песни простые слова. 
Ты уходишь в огонь Югославия! 
Без меня! Без меня! Без меня! 
 
За ночь под свинцовым градом,
За то, что меня нет рядом,
Ты прости, сестра моя — Югославия!
За смерть под дождем весенним,
За то, что не стал спасением!
Ты прости, сестра моя — Югославия!
Черноглазой девчонкой растерянной
Ты стоишь на другом берегу.
Но добраться до этого берега
Не могу, не могу, не могу.


Над вечерним Дунаем разносится 
Белый цвет, белый цвет, белый цвет. 
И на память мелодия просится, 
Прошлых лет, Прошлых лет, Прошлых лет... 
 
За ночь под свинцовым градом, 
За то что меня нет рядом, 
Ты прости сестра моя - 
Югославия! 

За смерть под дождем весенним, 
За то что не стал спасением! 
Ты прости сестра моя - 
Югославия!
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